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Translation - Italian-German - quante strade ripide per buttarsi via quante...

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Title
quante strade ripide per buttarsi via quante...
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Submitted by Biggi
Source language: Italian

quante strade ripide
per buttarsi via
quante solitudini
in questa compagnia
qui non c'è chiuso in se
ma se possiamo scegliere
un'altra strada c'è

Title
quante strade ripide
Translation
German

Translated by Lein
Target language: German

Wieviel steile Straßen
Um sich wegzuwerfen
Wieviel Einsamkeiten
In dieser Gesellschaft
Hier ist niemand in sich selbst geschlossen
Aber wenn wir auswählen könnten
Gibt es eine andere Straße
Validated by italo07 - 9 November 2008 20:42





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4 November 2008 14:12

Lein
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Hello experts

this request had been waiting for so long that I decided to give it a go... By all means reject it if the German is too awful!

4 November 2008 17:21

italo07
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Please look the following words up

Soviel (better: Wieviel)
Strassen remember the "Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung" which says: Nach langem Vokal folgt ein 'ß'
abzusturzen (Ü)
diesem
Geselschaft
sichselb
Aber wenn wir können auswählen wrong word order

4 November 2008 17:29

italo07
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dieser Gesellschaft

4 November 2008 17:32

Lein
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Uf... Thanks Italo - that's quite a lot! I'm surprised you didn't reject it straightaway!

Can you help me out - why should it be 'dieser' here? I know 'in' can be followed by third or fourth declination but I always have to guess which one

As for the one but last line - would you say 'können' is the right translation?

Thank you!

4 November 2008 17:35

italo07
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It's better to use the "Konjuntiv II" könnten

I'll explain you "diesem" later because I have to go now, ok?

I didn't rejected it because I wanted that you learn from that what you did wrong

4 November 2008 21:42

italo07
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It's really difficult to explain it in english... but Heidrun could help us here

CC: iamfromaustria

4 November 2008 21:57

iamfromaustria
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It is the third case (dative) but "hidden" in a demonstrative pronoun that is feminine. Here you have a list of how it has to be declined.

5 November 2008 10:26

italo07
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besser hätte ich es nicht erklären können

5 November 2008 12:58

Lein
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but Gesellschaft is neutral isn't it? Does 'dies-' become feminine just to confuse all non-native speakers?
I'm not trying to discuss it as you two obviously know what you're talking about - I just don't understand (so probably would keep on making this mistake)!
Help much appreciated!

5 November 2008 18:09

italo07
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die Gesellschaft
das Gesellschaft

5 November 2008 18:18

Lein
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Ah! OK, now it makes sense. Thank you!

5 November 2008 18:28

iamfromaustria
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Oh, I see you've already sorted your problem out. Actually, there shouldn't be any exceptions to this rule, as it is basic grammar. It would be really confusing if a feminine noun would suddenly become masculine regarding the pronoun

5 November 2008 18:58

Lein
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That is why I was so confused... I let the Dutch word 'gezelschap' (neutral) confuse me