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| | 27 September 2008 13:45 |
| lenabNumber of messages: 1084 | Hi Lilian!
I was looking at this one at the same time as you. I wanted to translate it a bit differently though. I looked at the turkish version too, and this is my suggestion:
"I was thinking that the thing we are living is a bit difficult, I told myself."
What do you think? |
| | 27 September 2008 13:57 |
| | Hi Lenab,
I don't know Turkish so I translated from Italian.
But I don't get why you think that's "I told myself"
I may be completely wrong, but I understood "mi stessi dicendo" as subjunctive (you were telling me) |
| | 27 September 2008 15:49 |
| lenabNumber of messages: 1084 | The Turkish text says "I told myself", and I interpreted the Italian the same way.
But I think there is a "che" to many and I would have added some commas in the italian text.
(Pensavo, mi stessi dicendo, che....)
But it seams like the Italian is the original. |
| | 27 September 2008 15:49 |
| | Sorry, Lilly, but I insist on my version that you rejected.
"I thought about myself, telling that what, we are living, is a difficult thing a bit." |
| | 27 September 2008 18:46 |
| | Hi. I don't unerstand why Lenab and Guzel want to change so much in the translation. Lilian's version seems perfect to me. |
| | 27 September 2008 18:53 |
| | If Lenab is right about the turkish version, than it is translated wrong. It is "Io pensavo che tu mi setssi dicendo che...", it is neither "I told myself", nor "I thought about myself" |
| | 27 September 2008 19:11 |
| lenabNumber of messages: 1084 | I agree, if Italian is the original language. But why the subjunctive mood??
The turkish text says "I told myself". |
| | 27 September 2008 19:27 |
| | I can't see any "I told myself" in the Italian original
"...che mi stessi dicendo" in latin languages that "che" comes before a subjunctive mode (past subjunctive in this case) which in English renders as Simple, Progressive or Past Perfect.
Guzel, I didn't reject your version only because of that, but also for using wrong structures. |
| | 27 September 2008 20:44 |
| | Hi Xini, could you help us here, please? CC: Xini |
| | 27 September 2008 21:59 |
| lenabNumber of messages: 1084 | I'm sure you are right Lilian!! The Italian text says as you've translated it. I was confused by the turkish version. Because I didn't think you used subjunctive mode after "pensare che" if there's no negation, I saw "mi stesso". |
| | 27 September 2008 21:59 |
| | Let's wait for Xini's answer. If I am right the Turkish version will have to be corrected. |
| | 28 September 2008 01:04 |
| | I suppose the Turkish version is not O.k. |
| | 28 September 2008 09:58 |
| | Lilian's explanations regarding the Italian grammar rules are right. I would add that is not only the "che" that selects a subjonctive mood, but also the meaning of the verb "pensare". |
| | 28 September 2008 12:17 |
| lenabNumber of messages: 1084 | Thanks for the grammar lesson!! |
| | 28 September 2008 13:17 |
| XiniNumber of messages: 1655 | The translation from Ita to Eng is right.
Cheers
A. |
| | 28 September 2008 15:32 |
| | Thanks Xini
I guess that will bring some work to FIGEN.
The translation into Turkish should be corrected. CC: Guzel_R FIGEN KIRCI |
| | 28 September 2008 19:34 |
| | ok, lilian, I'll take care about it.
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| | 28 September 2008 23:33 |
| | Bu çeviri " Yaşadığımızın biraz zor birşey olduğunu söylediğini düşünüyordum" anlamına gelir ve tamamen yanlıştır. Doğrusu: "While I was talking by myself, I thought that the thing that we were living was a bit difficult. |
| | 29 September 2008 23:28 |
| | correction done, dear lilian!
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