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Translation - Grieks-Engels - εχει χασει την εμπιστοσυνη του γενικα εκει που το...Current status Translation
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Category Letter / Email This translation request is "Meaning only". | εχει χασει την εμπιστοσυνη του γενικα εκει που το... | | Source language: Grieks
εχει χασει την εμπιστοσυνη του γενικα εκει που το καλοκαιÏι ημουν στα χωÏισματα, σου λεει τωÏα τι εγινε? εγω τι Ïολο βαÏαω, του κλόουν? τι να πεÏιμενω...ενα ονειÏο? |
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| | TranslationEngels Translated by Majax | Target language: Engels
He has lost his trust generally when I was on the verge of separation during summer...", he's thinking, "...what happened now? And me, what am I standing for, the clown role ? What should I wait for... a dream ? | Remarks about the translation | "trust" could be replaced by "self-esteem" eventually, even though I believe in the emotional context, "trust" is more suitable. |
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Laaste geakkrediteerde redigering deur lilian canale - 2 August 2010 00:12
Last messages | | | | | 30 July 2010 14:36 | | User10Number of messages: 1173 | Yes, "trust" is the right choice.
He has lost his trust generally.
"when I was on the verge of separation during summer...", he's thinking, "...what happened now?
And me, what am I standing for, the clown role ? What should I wait for... a dream ?".
tell-metaphorical use.It's not that "he" is telling someone something. We use "σου λÎει" when we talk about a third person and his thoughts. | | | 30 July 2010 18:02 | | MajaxNumber of messages: 17 | I disagree on your "σου λÎει" analysis, as there is no comma after it. If it was ",σου λÎει,", I would be in total agreement with your proposal, and it should be kept instead of mine.
But as it is, I see a dialog between the message writer and the receiver, the first asking the latter if he/she has some insight/knowledge of a third person's opinion/position, whom they're talking about ("εμπιστοσυνη του", "σου λεει" , and with whom the receiver probably still has contact, while the sender is cut off.
What do you think about it ? | | | 31 July 2010 00:00 | | User10Number of messages: 1173 | I believe the text is clear, the punctuation problem isn't serious enough to cause ambiguity (the problem is not the lack of the comma after "σου λÎει", but the presence of the questionmark in the end of the second line, indirect interrogative clause as an object)
Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's a dialog between the writer and the receiver, concerning a third person, but I can't see how someone would use this structure ( "σου λÎει" ) in a different way (to ask something and not just present/transfer the thoughts of another person). I repeat, it's not that someone is actually saying smt to someone else ( "to you" ). "σου λÎει", here, is a figure of speech ( "is he telling you", but "he thinks/wonders) .
He has lost his trust generally... "While I was on the verge of separation during summer..." , he thinks,/he wonders " / []...what happened now? What am I standing for, the clown role ? What should I wait for... a dream ? " .
e.g. While s/he was about to seperate their mate starts to act in a more friendly way and they wonder "what happened now, and what am I standing for, the clown role? (doing everything you want and when you want: seperate/be together) | | | 1 August 2010 17:03 | | MajaxNumber of messages: 17 | Ok, it goes better with the general meaning of the whole paragraph, I concur with your option indeed. The context seems to be describing someone's ambivalent state and his self-questionings.
I'm changing the translation for your advised one then. | | | 1 August 2010 17:05 | | MajaxNumber of messages: 17 | As I cannot modify it, please replace the second line by :
"when I was on the verge of separation during summer...", he's thinking, "...what happened now? | | | 1 August 2010 17:12 | | | Hi guys, I edited according to Majax's post above. Is the translation correct now? | | | 1 August 2010 17:23 | | MajaxNumber of messages: 17 | Ok for me, many thanks to User10 for her patient and detailed review and explanations ! | | | 2 August 2010 00:10 | | User10Number of messages: 1173 | |
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