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1) Dans les quatre derniers matchs de l'équipe nationale, le sélectionneur actuel a réalisé divers essais. Certains couronnés de succès et d'autres pas tellement.

Je voulais connaître ton point de vue sur chacun d'eux.

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1) in the last four matches of the national team, the current coach carried out various trials. Some of them were quite successful, others not so much.

I would like to know your point of view on each one.
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"trials" here means the coach tried assigning players in different combinations and/or positions, to see how they played together.
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5 Heinäkuu 2007 09:56

goncin
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"selection" -> "national team" or, if not national, simply "team". "Seleção" is the name given in Portuguese to the national team formed by a country's (supposed) best players.

"selecionador" -> "coach"

5 Heinäkuu 2007 10:47

Menininha
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All that Goncin said.
And "Queria saber ..." it's like: "Gostaria de saber", so should be "I would like to know"

5 Heinäkuu 2007 15:42

kafetzou
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Thanks everyone for your help! I had no idea, and this means that the French is definitely incorrect.

On the other hand, I think the word "tasks" is OK - we talk about giving someone certain tasks to complete, and if s/he completes them correctly, s/he passes the test.

CC: Francky5591

5 Heinäkuu 2007 15:45

kafetzou
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One more question for the Portuguese speakers: Did the coach perform the tasks or give them (for the players to perform)?

5 Heinäkuu 2007 15:51

Rodrigues
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In relation to the portuguese original text, I believe, that the english translation now "got it" ;-)

5 Heinäkuu 2007 15:52

goncin
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Kafetzou,

"Tasks" is not the right word for this context. "Trial" would fit better. Thus, "the coach made various trials...".

The sense is "he tried some players, they did not play as expected, so he changed them by others, and so on".


5 Heinäkuu 2007 16:03

kafetzou
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Oh wow - this is VERY different. I'll change it.

CC: Francky5591

5 Heinäkuu 2007 16:12

kafetzou
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This time I went back to the original, as the French translation is completely wrong, I think. samanthalee, I've re-set the voting.

5 Heinäkuu 2007 16:28

acuario
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I think matches is not "jogos", it is "fosforo".

5 Heinäkuu 2007 16:38

Rodrigues
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But "match" is also a "jogo" of soccer...

5 Heinäkuu 2007 17:23

tom.naves
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Alguns argumentos no texto não estão exatamente como deveriam,coach poderia ser traduzido como técnico.

6 Heinäkuu 2007 02:26

casper tavernello
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Traduzido como técnico?
O texto original já é em português, tom.naves.

nota bene: selecionador, no Brasil, é mais usado para definir psicólogos de Recursos Humanos e o botão usado para trocar o canal do televisor.

6 Heinäkuu 2007 02:44

Una Smith
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"essais", meaning making changes just to see what happens, is not "trials": it is "tests" or "experiments".

6 Heinäkuu 2007 04:54

kafetzou
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Please see Goncin's comment above, Una (5 July 2007 15:52).

CC: Una Smith

6 Heinäkuu 2007 12:34

Una Smith
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Okay, having read the entire discussion here, I am going to jump in and edit the English target, working from the French (?) source. I am confused about which is the source...

6 Heinäkuu 2007 14:19

casper tavernello
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Portuguese, as I said above.

6 Heinäkuu 2007 15:27

kafetzou
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I re-edited it (back) and edited the comment underneath it, too. Una, I think you hadn't read the whole discussion - seleçao IS the national team. Francky has edited the French version accordingly, too.

CC: Una Smith

6 Heinäkuu 2007 19:10

Una Smith
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Sorry, folks, for making work for anyone. I got a request to look at the translation, which I did. From what I saw, I thought the original text was French, and now I guess I did not see *all* the discussion of the translation. This is a (small?) problem of interface design.

Portuguese selec,ao = American all star team ?

6 Heinäkuu 2007 19:37

casper tavernello
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Portuguese seleção = American all star team ?
I had the same idea!!!!

7 Heinäkuu 2007 02:47

kafetzou
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But it's not American in this case, is it? Also, as far as I know, an "all-star" team is commercial, whereas a national team can compete in the Olympics, World Cup, etc.
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