Μετάφραση - Αγγλικά-Λατινικά - Brother, not a Lover

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τίτλος	Brother, not a Lover
Κείμενο Υποβλήθηκε από redz21	Γλώσσα πηγής: Αγγλικά You're really a beautiful soul my Brother, my Hell, my Beloved... How to tell you that I'm sorry, really sorry, Blame me, Hate me, but don't give the word 'love' on me... I'm not that worth.
Παρατηρήσεις σχετικά με τη μετάφραση	I want to give this 'note' to a person who's like a brother for me.

τίτλος	Frater, non Amator
Μετάφραση Λατινικά Μεταφράστηκε από Aneta B.	Γλώσσα προορισμού: Λατινικά Anima vere pulchra tu es Frater meus, Tartarus meus, Amatus... Quomodo tibi dicam me paenitere, vero paenitere, Me reprehendeas, odio me habeas, sed me amorem noli vocare... Usque adeo digna non sum.
Παρατηρήσεις σχετικά με τη μετάφραση	Amatus/Dilectus

Τελευταία επικύρωση ή επεξεργασία από Aneta B. - 6 Σεπτέμβριος 2011 17:31

Τελευταία μηνύματα

	Συγγραφέας	Μήνυμα
		30 Αύγουστος 2011 09:38
	Francky5591 Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 12396	Female gender with "dignus" ("digna", maybe (cf the remark left by the requester )
		30 Αύγουστος 2011 11:12
	Francky5591 Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 12396	Already posted above (As I was asked by the server to develop my argumentation after having clicked on "the translation is right but might be improved"
		30 Αύγουστος 2011 11:56
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	You are right, Francky! Thank you! I forgot the requester was female...
		31 Αύγουστος 2011 10:59
	Francky5591 Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 12396	Hi dear! Now that you did the edit, my vote at the poll is "green", and not "blue" anymore! Are you waiting for Efy's vote before validating?
		31 Αύγουστος 2011 12:11
	emaltotinn Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 1	I think that "anima" is better than "animus"; "animus" is more like "spirit". Moreover, "my Brother etc." require the vocative: "mi frater, Tartare, dilecte" (and "dilectus" provides the text a nice "variatio" in reference to the verb "amare"
		31 Αύγουστος 2011 15:10
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	Dear Francky, Yes, I'm waiting for Efee's opinion as usual when it concerns longer and more complicated texts. --- Dear Efee, Could you help me with an evaluation here? It's really difficult to deal with my own translations without your help... --- Dear amaltoninn, Thank you for your input. Yes I agree that 'anima' would fit even better than 'animus' in this context. But, it's not so obvious that the words in a second line are in the Vocative. They can be also in the Nonimative, don't you think? I have connected them with the first line where we have "tu es" (you are). tu es --> anima pulchra tu es-->frater meus tu es--> Tartarus meus tu es--> amatus/dilectus meus Of course your interpretation is also possible. That's why I will ask the requester to clarify a meaning of the line. --- Dear edz21, Could you please tell us whether the words in a second line are in the Nominative and represent or describe the subject or they are in the Vocative case (=case of address), i.e. they "call" the subject. Thank you. My best regards Aneta B.
		31 Αύγουστος 2011 15:06
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	Ooops! Serena? CC: Efylove
		2 Σεπτέμβριος 2011 07:57
	Efylove Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 1015	Hi Aneta! Sorry for the delay, I'm being very busy, but I'll tell you everything later. Green light for your translation! Just a doubt abut "odio me habeas": why did you choose the subjunctive and not an imperative (as you did for "reprehende"? However, as amaltoninn suggested, I will wait for edz21's answer about the second line, because it seems quite ambiguous (I also though they were vocative!).
		2 Σεπτέμβριος 2011 09:33
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	Ha! Yes, first I had imperatives in both the verbs then I decided to change into subjunctive, but I have done it only with the one... Have no idea why... Thank you! All right. Let's wait for the requester's explanations.
		2 Σεπτέμβριος 2011 23:41
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	redz21? You logged in tonight, but didn't answer our question...
		6 Σεπτέμβριος 2011 17:29
	Aneta B. Αριθμός μηνυμάτων: 4487	Since the requester has not replied (I understand he doesn't care anymore), I'm gonna accept the translation as it is. I'll make only the few changes that we agreed to. Thanks to all of you for your help!