Tafsiri - Kiingereza-Kilatini - Brother, not a Lover

	Mwandishi	Ujumbe
		30 Agosti 2011 09:38
	Francky5591 Idadi ya ujumbe: 12396	Female gender with "dignus" ("digna", maybe (cf the remark left by the requester )
		30 Agosti 2011 11:12
	Francky5591 Idadi ya ujumbe: 12396	Already posted above (As I was asked by the server to develop my argumentation after having clicked on "the translation is right but might be improved"
		30 Agosti 2011 11:56
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	You are right, Francky! Thank you! I forgot the requester was female...
		31 Agosti 2011 10:59
	Francky5591 Idadi ya ujumbe: 12396	Hi dear! Now that you did the edit, my vote at the poll is "green", and not "blue" anymore! Are you waiting for Efy's vote before validating?
		31 Agosti 2011 12:11
	emaltotinn Idadi ya ujumbe: 1	I think that "anima" is better than "animus"; "animus" is more like "spirit". Moreover, "my Brother etc." require the vocative: "mi frater, Tartare, dilecte" (and "dilectus" provides the text a nice "variatio" in reference to the verb "amare"
		31 Agosti 2011 15:10
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Dear Francky, Yes, I'm waiting for Efee's opinion as usual when it concerns longer and more complicated texts. --- Dear Efee, Could you help me with an evaluation here? It's really difficult to deal with my own translations without your help... --- Dear amaltoninn, Thank you for your input. Yes I agree that 'anima' would fit even better than 'animus' in this context. But, it's not so obvious that the words in a second line are in the Vocative. They can be also in the Nonimative, don't you think? I have connected them with the first line where we have "tu es" (you are). tu es --> anima pulchra tu es-->frater meus tu es--> Tartarus meus tu es--> amatus/dilectus meus Of course your interpretation is also possible. That's why I will ask the requester to clarify a meaning of the line. --- Dear edz21, Could you please tell us whether the words in a second line are in the Nominative and represent or describe the subject or they are in the Vocative case (=case of address), i.e. they "call" the subject. Thank you. My best regards Aneta B.
		31 Agosti 2011 15:06
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Ooops! Serena? CC: Efylove
		2 Septemba 2011 07:57
	Efylove Idadi ya ujumbe: 1015	Hi Aneta! Sorry for the delay, I'm being very busy, but I'll tell you everything later. Green light for your translation! Just a doubt abut "odio me habeas": why did you choose the subjunctive and not an imperative (as you did for "reprehende"? However, as amaltoninn suggested, I will wait for edz21's answer about the second line, because it seems quite ambiguous (I also though they were vocative!).
		2 Septemba 2011 09:33
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Ha! Yes, first I had imperatives in both the verbs then I decided to change into subjunctive, but I have done it only with the one... Have no idea why... Thank you! All right. Let's wait for the requester's explanations.
		2 Septemba 2011 23:41
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	redz21? You logged in tonight, but didn't answer our question...
		6 Septemba 2011 17:29
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Since the requester has not replied (I understand he doesn't care anymore), I'm gonna accept the translation as it is. I'll make only the few changes that we agreed to. Thanks to all of you for your help!

Tafsiri - Kiingereza-Kilatini - Brother, not a Lover

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