Vertaling - Turks-Engels - Yukarıda açık kimliği yazılı tolga halen...

Merhaba
"open identification" ya da " açık kimlik" hukuki bir tanımlama, söylenmek istenen," kimliği herkese açık ve net şekilde verilen, belirtilen" anlamında bir tanımlama. Ayni şekilde " açık adres" tanımlaması da var.
Eskiden bizde de Akademiler bulunurdu ve anlattığınız şekilde yapılanmışlardı. Akademiler kaldırıldı yerine fakülteler geldi. Fakültede eğitim verenlere "Yardımcı Doç. Dr ,Doçent Dr. ve Profesor tanımlamaları kullanılıyor. "Öğretmen" tanımlaması orta öğretimde kullanılıyor.

I prefer that explanation in English, guys. I'd like to understand it too.

CC: merdogan

Only the first part is about "open identification", but I have to say that I still don't understand it. He says it's a legal term, and means that the identification is open to everyone and given or revealed in a clear way. He said there is also a term "open address", which works the same way.

The second part is still about "fakülte". He says they used to call the different divisions "academies" in the old days and the word "faculty" was used for the instructors, but now the instructors are called "Assistant Professor Doctor, Instructor Doctor, or Professor". He says that the term "Teacher" is reserved for high school.

My comments on the 2nd paragraph above: While this is mostly true, I was an instructor in a "Fakülte" at a Turkish university, and I was called "Öğretmen" - maybe because I was a foreign instructor and not a true faculty member (by the North American definition of "faculty" ).

CC: lilian canale

Maybe the correct translation in English, since we don't have the concept of "open identification" would be "the student clearly identified above".

Would that "open identification" mean something like: "nonclassified information"?

What's that?

merdogan, what information would you expect to find on the top of this document? Would it be just his name and student number, or would there be more information, such as date of birth, etc.

Hi all,

I agree with what Merdogan offered so far :

-- open identification
-- faculty

But handyy, both you and merdogan are native speakers of Turkish. A person who does not understand Turkish would not understand what "open identification" means. I still don't totally understand it.

Oh, then what would you -as an English native speaker- use instead of "open ID"? By "open identification" we mean somebody's name, address, birth date/place, and some other detailed information about him/her.

We would just say something like this: "The person identified above ..."

We don't have open or closed identification.

In English, we would also say "currently enrolled", but that's "hâlen", not "hâlâ", right?

Hi Kafetzou, what I mean is the information about the student that is not classified and may be disclosed.
I'd use "personal data" or "personal information".

The "personal data" would be the part that should not be disclosed, wouldn't it?

I think that is the "classified personal information"

So what is the "open identification" then? Unclassified? We only say that for information, though, not for an identification.

As I said before I would use "personal information", but I think it's fine the way it is.

What about "detailed personal information"??

Btw, according to Turkish Language Agency:
hâlâ--> Şimdiye kadar, o zamana kadar, hâlen, henüz

"hâlen"-->Şimdi, şu anda, bugünkü günde

It would be better to use "currently" over there.

OK - I will change it to "currently", but I don't think the other part should be changed. We don't know what the identification consists of - if it's just his student number, then it's not personal information.

OK, I got it!