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Espírito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;
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Espírito Livre;

Conhece A Ti Mesmo;
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Gostaria que as expressões fossem escritas de duas maneiras:

a primeira, com as palavras escritas com as primeiras letras maiúsculas, exemplo: "Conhece A Ti Mesmo" / "Espírito Livre";

a segunda maneira de forma normal como em uma frase, exemplo: "Conhece a ti mesmo"; Espírito livre"

Muito Obrigado...

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Ελεύθερο πνεύμα, Γνώθι σαυτόν.
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Ελεύθερο πνεύμα,

Γνώθι σαυτόν.
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10 Maj 2007 17:23

irini
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Να ρωτήσω, μήπως πρέπει να προσθέσουμε και το "γνώθι σαυτόν" ως μετάφραση του "Conhece A Ti Mesmo";

10 Maj 2007 17:29

kafetzou
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Μπορεί, αλλά δεν πιστεύω να είναι τίποτα το γνώστό εδώ. Και είναι ρήμα - δεν είναι ουσιαστικό. It's "Know yourself", not "self-knowledge".

10 Maj 2007 19:05

irini
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α) το γνώθι σαυτόν (gnothi seauton) είναι νομίζω αρκετά γνωστό σε όλον τον κόσμο.

β) μα το γνώθι σαυτόν δεν είναι ουσιαστικό Σημαίνει να ξέρεις τον ίδιο τον εαυτό σου.

10 Maj 2007 20:12

On Fire
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Nossa, eu agradeço a preocupação, sério de verdade, quanto ao meu pedido, mas eu não falo grego, então eu não entendi...só entendi que há uma discordância...Por favor, será que tem como me explicar?

Valeu, muito obrigado...

10 Maj 2007 22:39

kafetzou
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The question was whether to use an older, but very well known expression for "Know thyself". I now agree with irini that we should do that, so I changed my translation to the one she suggested.

10 Maj 2007 23:07

pirulito
Antal indlæg: 1180
Kafetzou, why not ελεύθερο πνεύμα (free spirit)?

Ελεύθερη ψυχή is just "free soul".



( Γνώθι σ’αυτόν or γνώθι σαυτόν is ok! )

11 Maj 2007 01:04

irini
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Nope! In ancient Greek it would be γνῶθι σαὑτόν and in modern γνώθι σαυτόν (or γνῶθισεαυτόν /γνώθι σεαυτόν).

I agree about the free spirit though. As a verbatim translation mind you; I don't really speak Spanish.

11 Maj 2007 01:42

casper tavernello
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Spanish?

11 Maj 2007 01:56

casper tavernello
Antal indlæg: 5057
They are both philosophical sayings:

the first one is from Nietzsche, referring to the humanists (de- freie Geister).

the second one is the maxim of Socrates.

11 Maj 2007 03:02

pirulito
Antal indlæg: 1180
 conhece(-te) a ti mesmo
 γνώθι σαυτόν
 know yourself
 nosce te ipsum
 conócete a ti mismo



 espírito livre
 ελεύθερο πνεύμα
 free spirit
 liber spiritus, animus liber
 espíritu libre


11 Maj 2007 03:04

irini
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caspertavernello lol! Sorry I was reading the Spanish wikipedia and I made a mistake. I meant that I don't really speak Portuguese so when it comes to expressions I cannot speak with any authority.

11 Maj 2007 05:30

kafetzou
Antal indlæg: 7963
OK; it's changed now. irini, you really should've rejected my translation!

pirulito, how did you do that cool thing with the flag buttons?