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Hanc imaginem Assumptionis Beatae Mariae Virginis...
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Hanc imaginem Assumptionis Beatae Mariae Virginis a Molitore Dusseldorfensi pictam pio animo dedicavit in memoriam Jubilaei exstraordinarii a Papa Leone XII.MDCCCLXXXI indicti Patronus huius ecclesiae Dominus Fridericus Comes de Praschma suis et parochi sumptibus
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Edits done (to make it understandable) on notif. from Aneta & Efylove /pias 090706.

Original request:
"Hanc imaginem Assumplionis Beatae Mariae Virginis a Molitore Dusseldorfensi piclam pio animo dedicavil in memori im Jubilaei exstraordinarii a Papa Leone XII.?.MDCCCLXXXI indicti Patronus hujus ecclesiae Dominus Fridericus Comes de Praschma suis et parochi sumplibus et ex fundatione matris deluuclae Joannae Comiles sae de Praschma n.Comit.Schaffgotsch, Falkenbergae die natali Dedicattoris XXm Mai ?MDCCCLXXXII Carolus Illgner Parochus"
Ilihaririwa mwisho na pias - 6 Julai 2009 22:53





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4 Julai 2009 19:29

Aneta B.
Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487
There were made some mistakes in this text by the requester, who probably wasn’t able to decipher this inscription. Before I translate it into Polish, there are needed some changes in the source. I’ve already proofread it , but I would ask Latin expert to check it. These are my few proposals:
"Hanc imaginem Assumplionis Beatae Mariae Virginis a Molitore Dusseldorfensi pictam pio animo dedicavit in memoriam Jubilaei exstraordinarii a Papa Leone XII.?.MDCCCLXXXI indicti Patronus huius ecclesiae Dominus Fridericus Comes de Praschma suis et parochi sumptibus et ex fundatione matris deluuclae
Joannae Comiles sae de Praschma n.Comit.Schaffgotsch,
Falkenbergae die natali Dedicattoris XXm Mai ?MDCCCLXXXII Carolus Illgner Parochus"

I don't know what the word "deluuclae" is (deluctae?), "sae" and "XXm"...???

4 Julai 2009 19:36

pias
Idadi ya ujumbe: 8114
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CC: Efylove

5 Julai 2009 13:08

Efylove
Idadi ya ujumbe: 1015
Assumplionis = Assumptionis

"deluuclae", "sae" and "XXm" - no idea

5 Julai 2009 16:14

Aneta B.
Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487
Oh, yeah, of course. I haven't noticed that before, Efylove. But about the last ones... Anch'io non ho un'idea

6 Julai 2009 22:10

pias
Idadi ya ujumbe: 8114
Hello Aneta Efylove,

I'm not sure what to do here. Should that last part (deluuclae Joannae Comiles sae de Praschma n.Comit.Schaffgotsch, Falkenbergae die natali Dedicattoris XXm Mai ?MDCCCLXXXII Carolus Illgner Parochus) be removed and the rest corr. acc. to Aneta's proposal?

CC: Aneta B. Efylove

6 Julai 2009 22:38

Aneta B.
Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487
Hi pias!
If you cut the following part:
"et ex fundatione matris deluuclae Joannae Comiles sae de Praschma n.Comit.Schaffgotsch, Falkenbergae die natali Dedicattoris XXm Mai ?MDCCCLXXXII Carolus Illgner Parochus"
I would be able to translate it into Polish and will do it. Otherwise I won't do the translation, because of difficulty in deciphering this part..

6 Julai 2009 22:48

Aneta B.
Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487
The source should be changed this way (if the requester agrees):
"Hanc imaginem Assumptionis Beatae Mariae Virginis a Molitore Dusseldorfensi pictam pio animo dedicavit in memoriam Jubilaei exstraordinarii a Papa Leone XII.MDCCCLXXXI indicti Patronus huius ecclesiae Dominus Fridericus Comes de Praschma suis et parochi sumptibus"

I suppose that the question mark inside the text was added by requester, who wasn't sure of this part..., so I has removed it too.

6 Julai 2009 22:54

pias
Idadi ya ujumbe: 8114
Thanks Aneta, edits done!

7 Julai 2009 00:31

lilian canale
Idadi ya ujumbe: 14972
Hi Pia,
Edits suggested for a request in a language we, admins, don't know, should be notified to an expert for the source language. S/he is the most suitable person to make the edits as long as the edits are needed, of course.

Efylove, please...

CC: Efylove

7 Julai 2009 00:42

Aneta B.
Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487
From the posts above rather follows that Efylove has already accepted my suggestions and also added one more, which I included in the text edited. Unless my deduction is wrong

7 Julai 2009 09:13

Efylove
Idadi ya ujumbe: 1015
Your deduction is right.
I agree with Aneta's suggestions and Pia's edits.

7 Julai 2009 13:23

pias
Idadi ya ujumbe: 8114
Lilian,
Efylove was notified!!! And I agree whit Aneta's post above: "From the posts above rather follows that Efylove has already accepted my suggestions and also added one more, which I included in the text edited"

Edit : I erased what was typed in bold.

Francky.