Translation - Portaingéilis (na Brasaíle)-Greek - EspÃrito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;

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Title	EspÃrito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;
Text Submitted by On Fire	Source language: Portaingéilis (na Brasaíle) EspÃrito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;
Remarks about the translation	Gostaria que as expressÃµes fossem escritas de duas maneiras: a primeira, com as palavras escritas com as primeiras letras maiÃºsculas, exemplo: "Conhece A Ti Mesmo" / "EspÃrito Livre"; a segunda maneira de forma normal como em uma frase, exemplo: "Conhece a ti mesmo"; EspÃrito livre" Muito Obrigado... <Admin's remark> This request is no longer acceptable according to our new submission rules.

Title	Î•Î»ÎµÏÎ¸ÎµÏÎ¿ Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î±, Î“Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½.
Translation Greek Translated by kafetzou	Target language: Greek Î•Î»ÎµÏÎ¸ÎµÏÎ¿ Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î±, Î“Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½.
Remarks about the translation	<Admin's remark> This request is no longer acceptable according to our new submission rules.

Validated by pias - 9 December 2010 12:16

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	Author	Message
		10 May 2007 17:23
	irini Number of messages: 849	ÎÎ± ÏÏ‰Ï„Î®ÏƒÏ‰, Î¼Î®Ï€Ï‰Ï‚ Ï€ÏÎÏ€ÎµÎ¹ Î½Î± Ï€ÏÎ¿ÏƒÎ¸ÎÏƒÎ¿Ï…Î¼Îµ ÎºÎ±Î¹ Ï„Î¿ "Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½" Ï‰Ï‚ Î¼ÎµÏ„Î¬Ï†ÏÎ±ÏƒÎ· Ï„Î¿Ï… "Conhece A Ti Mesmo";
		10 May 2007 17:29
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	ÎœÏ€Î¿ÏÎµÎ¯, Î±Î»Î»Î¬ Î´ÎµÎ½ Ï€Î¹ÏƒÏ„ÎµÏÏ‰ Î½Î± ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ Ï„Î¯Ï€Î¿Ï„Î± Ï„Î¿ Î³Î½ÏŽÏƒÏ„ÏŒ ÎµÎ´ÏŽ. ÎšÎ±Î¹ ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ ÏÎ®Î¼Î± - Î´ÎµÎ½ ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ Î¿Ï…ÏƒÎ¹Î±ÏƒÏ„Î¹ÎºÏŒ. It's "Know yourself", not "self-knowledge".
		10 May 2007 19:05
	irini Number of messages: 849	Î±) Ï„Î¿ Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ (gnothi seauton) ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ Î½Î¿Î¼Î¯Î¶Ï‰ Î±ÏÎºÎµÏ„Î¬ Î³Î½Ï‰ÏƒÏ„ÏŒ ÏƒÎµ ÏŒÎ»Î¿Î½ Ï„Î¿Î½ ÎºÏŒÏƒÎ¼Î¿. Î²) Î¼Î± Ï„Î¿ Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ Î´ÎµÎ½ ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ Î¿Ï…ÏƒÎ¹Î±ÏƒÏ„Î¹ÎºÏŒ Î£Î·Î¼Î±Î¯Î½ÎµÎ¹ Î½Î± Î¾ÎÏÎµÎ¹Ï‚ Ï„Î¿Î½ Î¯Î´Î¹Î¿ Ï„Î¿Î½ ÎµÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒ ÏƒÎ¿Ï….
		10 May 2007 20:12
	On Fire Number of messages: 1	Nossa, eu agradeÃ§o a preocupaÃ§Ã£o, sÃ©rio de verdade, quanto ao meu pedido, mas eu nÃ£o falo grego, entÃ£o eu nÃ£o entendi...sÃ³ entendi que hÃ¡ uma discordÃ¢ncia...Por favor, serÃ¡ que tem como me explicar? Valeu, muito obrigado...
		10 May 2007 22:39
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	The question was whether to use an older, but very well known expression for "Know thyself". I now agree with irini that we should do that, so I changed my translation to the one she suggested.
		10 May 2007 23:07
	pirulito Number of messages: 1180	Kafetzou, why not ÎµÎ»ÎµÏÎ¸ÎµÏÎ¿ Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î± (free spirit)? Î•Î»ÎµÏÎ¸ÎµÏÎ· ÏˆÏ…Ï‡Î® is just "free soul". ( Î“Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ Ïƒâ€™Î±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ or Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ is ok! )
		11 May 2007 01:04
	irini Number of messages: 849	Nope! In ancient Greek it would be Î³Î½á¿¶Î¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±á½‘Ï„ÏŒÎ½ and in modern Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ (or Î³Î½á¿¶Î¸Î¹ÏƒÎµÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ /Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎµÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½). I agree about the free spirit though. As a verbatim translation mind you; I don't really speak Spanish.
		11 May 2007 01:42
	casper tavernello Number of messages: 5057	Spanish?
		11 May 2007 01:56
	casper tavernello Number of messages: 5057	They are both philosophical sayings: the first one is from Nietzsche, referring to the humanists (de- freie Geister). the second one is the maxim of Socrates.
		11 May 2007 03:02
	pirulito Number of messages: 1180	conhece(-te) a ti mesmo Î³Î½ÏŽÎ¸Î¹ ÏƒÎ±Ï…Ï„ÏŒÎ½ know yourself nosce te ipsum conÃ³cete a ti mismo espÃrito livre ÎµÎ»ÎµÏÎ¸ÎµÏÎ¿ Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î± free spirit liber spiritus, animus liber espÃritu libre
		11 May 2007 03:04
	irini Number of messages: 849	caspertavernello lol! Sorry I was reading the Spanish wikipedia and I made a mistake. I meant that I don't really speak Portuguese so when it comes to expressions I cannot speak with any authority.
		11 May 2007 05:30
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	OK; it's changed now. irini, you really should've rejected my translation! pirulito, how did you do that cool thing with the flag buttons?

Translation - Portaingéilis (na Brasaíle)-Greek - EspÃ­rito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;

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Translation - Portaingéilis (na Brasaíle)-Greek - EspÃrito Livre; Conhece A Ti Mesmo;