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“Formatio illa non est fortuita sed fit ex certis...
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Submitted by haghag
Source language: Latin

“Formatio illa non est fortuita sed fit ex certis et necessariis legibus motus
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זהו ציטוט של דקארט שלקוח מספרו של Regius 1654, הוא קשור בצורה כזו או אחרת לחוקיות ולבריאה ספונטנית

Title
This generation is not fortuitous...
Translation
English

Translated by Aneta B.
Target language: English

This generation is not fortuitous, but it arises from motion by particular and necessary laws.
Remarks about the translation
laws = physical laws
by particular and necessary laws/on the bases of particular and necessary laws
Validated by Lein - 27 September 2011 12:35





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26 September 2011 15:36

Lein
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Hi Aneta

Sounds like a physics type of text. Are you sure 'newborns' is the expression you need here? (That word is used almost exclusively for babies!)
I would rather suggest 'production' or 'creation'.
(see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generation , definition 2b)

26 September 2011 18:52

Aneta B.
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Hi Lein,
This line comes from 'Annals of the History and Philosophy of Biology', where it has appeared as a Latin quotation. I asked for some more context so that I could understand the line (vide: posts under the request). That's why Francky has found that for me. Hope it's gonna be helpful for you too.

You will find a word 'generation' there and it precisely means "newborn creature" in this context.

26 September 2011 19:11

Lein
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Really? When I read it, it definitely means 'coming into being', 'creation', 'the bringing into existence'! (meaning number 1 on this site
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generate
For example in the sentence in your link:
'If an animal of one species gives birth to an animal of another species, we also have a case of equivocal generation [of this other animal species]'.
It also seems (intuitively) to match the word 'formatio' (the forming, creating of something?) better...

26 September 2011 19:28

Aneta B.
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I have just interpreted "formatio" as a newborn creation, but of course, dear, it may also be understood in general i.e. as a creating, forming. I think both the interpretations are fine. And I don't insist mine is better...
I haven't actually used the word "newborns" in my translation. Is "generation" fine then?

26 September 2011 19:29

Lein
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Yes, generation is fine - is it ok if I remove 'newborns' from the comments? Then it is up to the reader to pick the best interpretation

26 September 2011 19:32

Aneta B.
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Of course, it is. Thank you.

9 October 2011 21:39

Mesud2991
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Hi Aneta,

The meaning of motion here is a proposal, right?

10 October 2011 11:29

Lein
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No, have a look at the link in one of Aneta's posts above - 'motion' is like 'movement', 'matter in motion', things combining to become something else.

10 October 2011 15:04

Mesud2991
จำนวนข้อความ: 1331
I hadn't seen it. Thank you for explaining, Lein