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| | 19 Março 2008 16:56 |
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| | 19 Março 2008 17:10 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | |
| | 19 Março 2008 17:23 |
| | Good. What does "them" refer to - the ceremonies or the Iranians? I don't understand that part. |
| | 19 Março 2008 17:32 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | Neither - "them" is intended to refer to "Iranians' ancient thinking and their geography and natural state". Would "to the point one may use these" solve that ambiguity (which comes from the source text)? |
| | 23 Março 2008 18:57 |
| | Sorry - it still doesn't make sense in English - what is "to the point"? Do you mean "until" or "so that"?
Also, it should be "began", not "have begun". |
| | 23 Março 2008 22:48 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | Is it correct now? |
| | 24 Março 2008 01:23 |
| | I'm not sure. I don't understand what "until one may use them" means - does it mean that that is when we will stop studying them? Can you translate "Äis eble oni povus uzi ilin" word for word (including cases and persons) for me? |
| | 24 Março 2008 10:58 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | Well... here it goes:
Äis = until
eble = maybe
oni = one (undefinite subject)
povus = to be able to (conditional mood)
uzi = to use (infinitive)
ilin = them (3rd person plural, accusative case)
(I don't think it helps that much, though... ) |
| | 24 Março 2008 17:10 |
| | Wow - thanks, goncin, but as you say, it doesn't really solve the problem.
Do you think it means something like "to the point where the studies were usable (by other people)"? |
| | 24 Março 2008 17:11 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | Yep. It's what I wanted to mean when I first wrote "to the point one could use them"... |
| | 24 Março 2008 17:18 |
| | OK - I edited with that and have put a note below. I'll put this one to a vote. |
| | 24 Março 2008 17:20 |
| | Sorry - on re-read, this just doesn't work, because the word "studies" doesn't appear in the English, so the English reader assumes that some other plural noun is the referent. I will re-edit. |
| | 24 Março 2008 17:40 |
| goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | I'm trying to help alireza with these texts in Esperanto, but the texts in Esperanto simply don't help me... stevo (another Esperanto expert) has done one of these texts, not more successful than me... |