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| | 19 Mars 2008 16:56 |
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| | 19 Mars 2008 17:10 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | |
| | 19 Mars 2008 17:23 |
| | Good. What does "them" refer to - the ceremonies or the Iranians? I don't understand that part. |
| | 19 Mars 2008 17:32 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | Neither - "them" is intended to refer to "Iranians' ancient thinking and their geography and natural state". Would "to the point one may use these" solve that ambiguity (which comes from the source text)? |
| | 23 Mars 2008 18:57 |
| | Sorry - it still doesn't make sense in English - what is "to the point"? Do you mean "until" or "so that"?
Also, it should be "began", not "have begun". |
| | 23 Mars 2008 22:48 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | Is it correct now? |
| | 24 Mars 2008 01:23 |
| | I'm not sure. I don't understand what "until one may use them" means - does it mean that that is when we will stop studying them? Can you translate "Äis eble oni povus uzi ilin" word for word (including cases and persons) for me? |
| | 24 Mars 2008 10:58 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | Well... here it goes:
Äis = until
eble = maybe
oni = one (undefinite subject)
povus = to be able to (conditional mood)
uzi = to use (infinitive)
ilin = them (3rd person plural, accusative case)
(I don't think it helps that much, though... ) |
| | 24 Mars 2008 17:10 |
| | Wow - thanks, goncin, but as you say, it doesn't really solve the problem.
Do you think it means something like "to the point where the studies were usable (by other people)"? |
| | 24 Mars 2008 17:11 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | Yep. It's what I wanted to mean when I first wrote "to the point one could use them"... |
| | 24 Mars 2008 17:18 |
| | OK - I edited with that and have put a note below. I'll put this one to a vote. |
| | 24 Mars 2008 17:20 |
| | Sorry - on re-read, this just doesn't work, because the word "studies" doesn't appear in the English, so the English reader assumes that some other plural noun is the referent. I will re-edit. |
| | 24 Mars 2008 17:40 |
| goncinNombre de messages: 3706 | I'm trying to help alireza with these texts in Esperanto, but the texts in Esperanto simply don't help me... stevo (another Esperanto expert) has done one of these texts, not more successful than me... |