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अनुबाद - Ancient greek-अंग्रेजी - Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν

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Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν
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forestद्वारा बुझाइएको
स्रोत भाषा: Ancient greek

Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν
अनुबादका लागि चाहिन सक्ने थप जानकारी
Biblia sintactica, J 10,30. Potrzebuję dosłownego tłumaczenia (jeśli się da) aby sprawdzić sens wypowiedzi.

शीर्षक
John 10:30
अनुबाद
अंग्रेजी

User10द्वारा अनुबाद गरिएको
अनुबाद गर्नुपर्ने भाषा: अंग्रेजी

I and the Father are one.
Validated by lilian canale - 2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 29日 13:43





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2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:40

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
εϲμεν??
There isn't "c" in Ancient Greek!
This is John, 10, 30:
"Ego kaj ho pater hen esmen"... (εγω και ο πατηρ εν εσμεν- without diacritics, but I can put them if it is needed)

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 16:08

forest
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 2
I have taken it from Codex Sinaiticus
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=36&chapter=10&lid=en&side=r&verse=30&zoomSlider=0

I'm curious also why manuscript contains a lot of "C" chars. Looks like C is greek σ. Anyway what does "en esmen" means ? Equality ("the same" or unity ("the one" ?

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:23

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
no standby because I ask only to correct the source...

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:31

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
"esmen" = (we) are, forest
In Internet there are a lot of mistakes, so don't follow it...

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:33

lilian canale
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 14972
Aneta, could you post how the original should read so that we can edit/correct?

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:36

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
Yes, of course. Give me a while, ok? Putting diacritics isn't easy with my poor tools

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:45

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν

but I’d put a capital letter at the beginning of the sentence (like it is in the original Ancient Greek Bible), so it should be:

Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν


CC: lilian canale

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 17:52

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
I would correct also the English translation a bit.

Traditional translation of these words sounds:
My Father and I are one

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:05

User10
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 1173
Actually "C" is the form of "σ" which was used during the Byzantine Times. It is also used in Orthodox Christian icons (e.g.IHCOΥC XΡΙCTOC).Forest,it seems that your source (or the specific edition) is written according to the Medieval Greek writing style.

Aneta B. could you please tell me how do we put Ancient Greek diacritics?

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:16

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
Wow! I didn't know this Byzantine Ancient Greek. But, the Bible was written in previous times, so I prefer classical version... I don't know how the sentence should be changed if we want to type it in the Byzantine Ancient Greek, for example what diacritics we should put in this case...So I would choose the classical version, which I proposed above.
Diacritics you can find here:
Edittools



2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:18

User10
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 1173
I used the American Standart Version (also in English Revised Version).

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:21

User10
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 1173
I agree we should use the classical version.
Thank you!

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:23

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
ok. You're welcome. I like to be helpful!

A propos the tool. You must use it by simple "copy&paste" way. I didn't find any better tool since now yet. But, if you find sth, please, tell me about it too, ok?

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 18:53

lilian canale
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 14972
Original edited!
Thanks, Aneta

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 19:04

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 20:06

forest
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 2
"My Father and I are one"

I would like to ask if this is the only possible translation (the meaning).?

2009年 सेप्टेम्बर 27日 20:08

Aneta B.
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 4487
USER10 used "American Standart Version" in his translation, so it seems that both are correct, forest.