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Translation - Portuguese-Latin - não a nós senhor, não a nós, mas a tua glória.

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não a nós senhor, não a nós, mas a tua glória.
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Submitted by Jaime Azoubel
Source language: Portuguese

não a nós senhor, não a nós, mas a tua glória.

Title
Non pro nobis, Domine, non pro nobis, sed pro gloria tua.
Translation
Latin

Translated by goncin
Target language: Latin

Non pro nobis, Domine, non pro nobis, sed pro gloria tua.
Remarks about the translation
<bridge>Not for us, Lord, not for us, but for your glory.</bridge>
Validated by Aneta B. - 18 November 2009 14:38





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5 November 2009 19:50

Efylove
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No verb!

5 November 2009 19:52

Aneta B.
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Why did you use "ne" instaed of "non"? "Ne" is only with coniunctivus, goncin.

ad nos--> ad nostram

but I wouldn't use "ad" here, but "pro"...

5 November 2009 19:53

Aneta B.
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Yes, no verb indeed. Thank you Efee...

5 November 2009 19:53

goncin
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Efylove,

Latin is known for saying a lot of things while keeping the verbs omitted.

Lilian, what we used to do? I don't rememeber anymore...

CC: lilian canale

5 November 2009 19:58

goncin
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Aneta B.,

You is right. This is a first attempt of translation after 8+ months of inactivity. My (poor) Latin is indeed rusted.

But "pro nobis"

I'll edit it.

5 November 2009 20:00

Aneta B.
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Welcome back, goncin!!!
Hm, you're right, that Latin can have default predicate sometimes... But here we could imagine a lot of default verbs... It is not obvious what was supposed as a verb, so what should we do, Efee?

CC: Efylove

5 November 2009 20:58

Efylove
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I agree with Aneta! Here we could have a lot of default verbs...

5 November 2009 21:01

Aneta B.
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Now is perfect, goncin, but can we accept it without a verb? I still don't know.
Let's ask another admin as you are "new".

Could you tell us, Ernst?

CC: Bamsa

5 November 2009 21:05

Aneta B.
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Non nobis domine non nobis sed nomini tuo da gloriam'

This seems to be a paraphrase of Ps.115...

5 November 2009 21:14

Bamsa
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Hi Aneta

Rule 4 is very clear, we don't accept requests without any verb.

6 November 2009 00:17

Francky5591
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When the submitted text is in the requester's mother tongue, I think we can ask her/him to edit with one conjugated verb. It is true that Latin, as well as Russian and some other languages, have a special status regarding rule 4, because of predicates and some implicite verbs currently used in these languages. For a text in Portuguese submitted by a native speaker of Portuguese language, IMO rule 4 is to be applied.



6 November 2009 07:22

Aneta B.
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Yes! I wouldn'r reject it. It's easy to add some verb, but I am not a person who can do it, but the requester.

Jaime, could you add to your text one conjugated verb, please.

6 November 2009 12:34

Francky5591
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Thanks Aneta, but Jaime doesn't read English (well, that's what said on his profile), but Portuguese would be perfect!

I can send him a message using google translator from French into Portuguese, but IMO it would be better if someone speaking fluent Portuguese did it.

6 November 2009 12:46

lilian canale
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I'd better do it, Francky! You know the awkward results Google gives sometimes!

Jaime, há uma regra de submissão em Cucumis que não permite aceitar para tradução pedidos que não formem uma frase completa com ao menos um verbo conjugado. Esse é o caso do seu texto, por isso a menos que você inclua um verbo, o seu pedido não poderá ser aceito para tradução.
Que tal solicitar o Salmo completo que efetivamente contém um verbo conjugado?

"Não a nós, Senhor, não a nós, mas ao teu nome dá glória, por amor da tua benignidade e da tua verdade."
Salmo 115.

CC: Francky5591

9 November 2009 23:42

Aneta B.
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Jaime Azoubel?