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翻译 - 拉丁语-英语 - Graeci nati, Graeci morientur

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Graeci nati, Graeci morientur
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Graeci nati, Graeci morientur.
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Θα ηθελα την ακριβη μεταφραση του συγκεκριμενου κειμενου και εαν εχει αποδοθει σωστα συντακτικα.

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Those born Greek will die Greek.
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翻译 Pashikane
目的语言: 英语

They were born Greek, they will die Greek.
lilian canale认可或编辑 - 2013年 四月 28日 00:36





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2013年 四月 24日 21:25

lilian canale
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Hi Latin experts,

Could you have a look at the original and make the proper edits if necessary?

Thanks in advance

CC: Efylove Aneta B.

2013年 四月 25日 11:49

Efylove
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The problem is that the first part of the sentence is plural, while the second has a singular verb and a word - "Graecis" - whose case doesn't fit at all.
Maybe we can edit:

"Graeci nati, Graeci morientur"
"Those born Greek will die as Greeks"

I think this could be the original meaning of the sentence.

2013年 四月 25日 11:56

Pashikane
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I also think that it should be "morientur". But I just tranlsated what was given
But why is the case of "graecis" strange?
If it's "Graeci" instead it means "Greek people (are) born, Greek people will die".

2013年 四月 25日 15:35

lilian canale
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OK, then, could you edit the original so that we can adapt the translation?

CC: Efylove

2013年 四月 25日 16:05

Efylove
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"Graecis" is a dative case ( "to the Greeks, because of the Greeks" ). Here you need a nominative case ( "Graeci" ) because it refers to the subject of the sentence ( "they... as Greeks", being "as Greeks" a predicative expression referring to the subject ).
Hope it could help.
I'm going to edit the sentence, ok?

2013年 四月 25日 20:43

Pashikane
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I'd rather consider "graecis" as ablative case, and I thought I had learned that that case can also be used in the meaning of "as...". But I'm not that much of an expert, so if you are sure, Efylove, that this is normally being expressed by nominative case, I have no problem with you editting it.
I see you already did it, I'll correct my translation.

2013年 四月 27日 22:33

Aneta B.
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They were born Greek, they will die Greek.

Nothing suggests a word "those" in this Latin sentence.