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Translation - Portuguese brazilian-English - a ave fênix ressurgindo das cinzas é a mistica da...

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a ave fênix ressurgindo das cinzas é a mistica da...
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Submitted by BRUNO FARIA
Source language: Portuguese brazilian

a ave fênix ressurgindo das cinzas é a mistica da superação pois a representatividade deste simbolo nos dará força para não desestir jamais.

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Phoenix
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English

Translated by casper tavernello
Target language: English

The phoenix rising from the ashes is the magic of overcoming, because the representation of this symbol will give us the power to never give up.
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of the overcoming (da superação) as a noun
Validated by kafetzou - 10 August 2007 20:23





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10 August 2007 19:56

kafetzou
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casper, this is good - you got "phoenix rising from the ashes", which is the usual expression, but "overcoming" should not be preceded by "the", and "mystique" doesn't sound right. What is meant here?

10 August 2007 20:10

casper tavernello
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First time I wrote rising, then I changed to arising (is the verb I saw on wikipedia once).

'Superação' is when one reach a goal.
That's the reason for my note on 'overcoming', as noun, that's why I put the article.

'A mística' is like 'the magic'.

Anyway, this a silly text, because they try to use 'hard' words to look more important, but 'representatividade' has nothing to do with all this. Is a word used on business, etc.

10 August 2007 20:20

kafetzou
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Maybe "magic" would be better than "mystique" then.

10 August 2007 20:22

kafetzou
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Abstract nouns, like "love", "hate", "war", "winning", and "overcoming" are not preceded by the definite article (when they are being used in the abstract sense) in English.

10 August 2007 20:38

casper tavernello
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I knew this, but not that overcoming would be there too.
Thanks.
I've changed.
But in portuguese, we put comma on the sentence between other two, like a parentesys:
The phoenix is the magic of overcoming.
and an explanation about the phoenix (rising from the ashes) between the subject and the object.

I don't know why do people write 'phoenix bird'. Is there a 'phoenix horse' or a 'phoenix echidna'?