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Translation - Brasiliaanse Portugees-Latyn - Chore agora, mas ria depois.

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Category Poetry - Liefde / Vriendskap

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Title
Chore agora, mas ria depois.
Text
Submitted by tarek shalon
Source language: Brasiliaanse Portugees

Chore agora, mas ria depois.
Remarks about the translation
Esse texto e para dizer a uma pessoa que esta triste chorando e nao quero que ela chore agora mais se lembre de rir depois.

Title
Nunc fleas, sed postea rideas.
Translation
Latyn

Translated by alexfatt
Target language: Latyn

Nunc fleas, sed postea rideas.
Remarks about the translation
The second option: "Nunc fle, sed postea ride". (less soft command) <Aneta B.>
Laaste geakkrediteerde redigering deur Aneta B. - 4 September 2010 16:35





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3 September 2010 22:06

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
"rideto"?
I don't think "ridere" has got such a form for the imperative... Shouldn't be "ride"?

Anyway, since the imperative significates an order in Latin, I would propone to use subjunctive here... (conjunctivus iussivus). What do you think, Alex?


2 September 2010 19:59

alexfatt
Number of messages: 1538
"rideto" is the future imperative.

http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/go.php?T1=rideo&D1=9&H1=109

I studied it can be used in few circumstances, i.e. when you give an order but not referred to the immediate present.

Anyway, that's a good idea.
Here the subjunctive could be more "latin"

2 September 2010 20:20

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
Yes of course, future imperative! It is so rare that looks really strange to me.

But I wouldn't use the imperative here, becuase it is rather advice than an order. Isn't it?

2 September 2010 21:35

alexfatt
Number of messages: 1538
Yes it is.

Then is this OK?
"Nunc fleas, sed postea rideas."

3 September 2010 22:07

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
Yes, I think the subjunctive fits here better.

4 September 2010 10:54

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
Can I ask you a bridge please, Lilly?

CC: lilian canale

4 September 2010 13:06

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
"Cry now, but laugh later" (In English and in Portuguese both are imperative)

4 September 2010 16:07

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
Thank you, Lilly, for the precise bridge.

But do the languages (English, Portuguese) have two ways of expressing comments like Latin does? Latin has got the imperative and the iussive subjunctive. Both can convey a command, but there is a subtle difference between them in the strength of that command.
Compare, please:
Hic mane = Wait here.
Hic maneas = Wait here (meaning: You should wait here).

But, of course, we can use the imperative here too, Alex. But rather not future one. So it can be also:
"Nunc fle, sed postea ride". It can go to the remarks or just be replaced. Your choice, dear!


4 September 2010 16:30

alexfatt
Number of messages: 1538
I would give both translations.

Would you mind to write it in the remarks, Aneta?


4 September 2010 16:35

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487