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Vitae summa brevis spem nos vetat incohare longam
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Vitae summa brevis spem nos vetat incohare longam
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The brief sum of life forbids us the hope of enduring long
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The brief sum of life forbids us the hope of enduring long
Senest vurdert og redigert av lilian canale - 14 Mai 2008 18:58





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12 Mai 2008 15:31

lilian canale
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I'm lost here!

Could you explain in other words this line, please?

12 Mai 2008 15:43

pias
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Yes, another try: "The brevity of life forbids us to entertain hopes of long duration". You know Lilian ...this is a poem by Ernest Dowson, that I found here.

My knowledge of Latin is so to say "not good"

12 Mai 2008 16:34

lilian canale
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Those poets like to make things difficult for us, ordinary mortal beings!

12 Mai 2008 16:58

Najatte
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Ernest Dowson! Probably the right translation... Thank you

They are not long, the weeping and the laughter,
Love and desire and hate
I think they have no portion in us after
We pass the gate

They are not long the days of wine and roses:
Out of a misty dream
Our path emerges for a while, then closes
Within a dream

So I believe that "the brevity of life forbids us to entertain hopes of long duration" is quite close. For my part, being French I wrote: La vie est courte et ne permet pas de nourrir des longues espérances.
Thank you for your help.

12 Mai 2008 17:27

pias
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Good if you are happy with the "result" Najatte.

Yes Lilian...they (poets) know how to complicate things.

So ...shall I edit to "The brevity of life forbids us to entertain hopes of long duration"?

12 Mai 2008 18:04

lilian canale
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If that is the "official" translation let's keep it.

12 Mai 2008 18:09

pirulito
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12 Mai 2008 19:04

Najatte
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Thanks Pirulito... do you agree with the translation ?

12 Mai 2008 19:07

pias
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Hm ...I can't understand the poem in Latin, but you are kind pirulito...always give a lot of input to the translations. Maybe Lilian or Najatte reads Latin.

Lilian ...I don't know if that is the "official" translation, but I think so. At least that is how Ernest Dowson interpret that Latin "line".

A third interpretation here.

12 Mai 2008 20:24

Najatte
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by the way I browsed on Gutenberg.org (Horace) and found:
How should a mortal's hopes be long, when short his being's date ?
by John Conington, M.A. Oxford University

With all due respect: the latin text was not a question.

12 Mai 2008 20:33

Najatte
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Thanks to you all... for your help. I'm quite satisfied with the result and I might read a few more lines by Horace, or at least try to.