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ترجمة - لاتيني-انجليزي - ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

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عنوان
ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!
نص
إقترحت من طرف dimitriscfu
لغة مصدر: لاتيني

ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

عنوان
the same thing consolidated this word!
ترجمة
انجليزي

ترجمت من طرف jedi2000
لغة الهدف: انجليزي

the same thing consolidated this word!
ملاحظات حول الترجمة
dictum, i, n. : saying, word; maxim; bon mot, witticism; order;
آخر تصديق أو تحرير من طرف lilian canale - 23 كانون الثاني 2010 12:07





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16 كانون الثاني 2010 22:24

Aneta B.
عدد الرسائل: 4487
Hm, sth wrong is with Latin here.

Obviously should be "ipsa res comfirmavit hoc dictum!

The translation is ok.

16 كانون الثاني 2010 22:31

Aneta B.
عدد الرسائل: 4487
The second possibility ""ipsam rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

but then, the translation would change:
"this word/expression consolidated the same thing"

I think it is more possible and we should ask the requester to check the source.

18 كانون الثاني 2010 09:24

jedi2000
عدد الرسائل: 110
Yes indeed ! "ipsa rem" is wrong. I believed it was in nominative case. "ipsa res" (nom./voc. case) and "ipsam rem" (acc. case) can match.

Maybe there is an inversion between "ipsa" and "res".
For example "Res ipsa loquitur" => "the thing itself speaks" or "the thing speaks for itself", well-known expression in law.

18 كانون الثاني 2010 14:01

Aneta B.
عدد الرسائل: 4487
I don't know what inversion you mean. Do you mean we have here "ipsa res", and not "res ipsa"? The opposite order is possible even if it is not stricte Latin order.

If it is in nominative it is a subject. If it was in accusative it would be an object. That's all.

The point is that "hoc dictum" is neutrum, so it could be as well the subject as the object. Everyting depends on "res ipsa" or "rem ipsam".
So, if you say it is nominative, the translation is fine.