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Experts i administradors de cucumis.org
Deures i responsabilitats dels experts de cucumis.org
1 L'expert té un estatus especial per a una llengua (o de vegades més d'una). L'expert només pot avaluar traduccions realitzades en aquest idioma.
2 L'expert visita cucumis.org regularment per revisar les traduccions fetes pels membres.
3 Quan la traducció és molt bona, és acceptada sense editar-la i amb una molt bona qualificació. Revisi més avall per trobar-ne detalls.
4. Quan la traducció és bona però conté algunes petites errades, és editada i després acceptada. Revisi més avall per trobar-ne detalls.
5. Quan la traducció no és prou bona, és rebutjada (revisi més avall per trobar detalls sobre la qualificació de traduccions rebutjades. És molt important deixar un missatge sota la traducció rebutjada (o directament a la safata d'entrada de l'usuari, si cal), per a que ell o ella no cometi la mateixa errada dues vegades.
6. Sé que la majoria de nosaltres estem traduint per plaer i no ens preocupem dels punts que puguem guanyar, però vostè ha de saber que quan n'accepta o en rebutja una guanya un petit percentatge del cost de la traducció.
7. Llegeixi i recordi [enllaç=h_t]aquestes pautes importants sobre com traduir a cucumis[/enllaç].
8. Existeix un (url=http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rss) canal RSS (/url) actualitzat a diari) que vostè pot utilitzar per a estar informat de qualsevol nova traducció que requereixi ser avaluada en les llengües en que és expert. Pot trobar aquest canal a la pà gina que conté les llistes de traducció per a ser avaluades (seleccioni el llenguatge de destà en que és expert), pressionant l'icone (img=http://cucumis.org/imatges/rss.png) RSS(/img). No dubti a fer servir aquest canal en el seu lector de feeds preferit
Netvibes, Google reader y [url=http://www.newsonfeeds.com/faq/aggregators]molt d'altres (/url)).
9. Prengui-ho amb calma
. Adopti un ritme de treball que pugui mantenir al llarg del temps. L'experiència ha demostrat que els nous experts que tradueixen i avaluen cents de traduccions durant els seus primers dies no duren gaire a cucumis. Per això, relaxi's...
10 En avaluar traduccions pari atenció en aquells traductors amb talent que podrien arribar a ser experts com vostè. Deixi-li un missatge a un administrador parlant-li'n. Treballar en equip sempre és més agradable i eficient. Encara més, aquests talents el podrien substituir quan li sigui més difÃcil emprar part del seu temps a Cucumis.
1 La qualificació que vostè assigna a una traducció tan sols considera la capacitat del traductor per escriure en la llengua de destÃ.
2 Per exemple, si és una persona que parla com a natiu el català , pot ser que faci una traducció molt dolenta de l'anglès al català (amb un sentit equivocat) però escrita en un català perfecte. En aquest cas vostè pot rebutjar la traducció lliurant-li a l'hora una qualificació alta (o no qualificant-la. Vegi més avall).
3 Quan rebutgi una traducció pot triar la opció "No qualificar" que no incidirà en la nota global de l'usuari pel llenguatge de destÃ.
4 Per exemple, en el cas d'una traducció rebutjada per no estar en el llenguatge correcte, vostè ha de [/b]rebutjar-la sense qualificar-la[/b].
1 Quan vostè accepta una traducció que no és de "només el significat", és automà ticament integrada en [enllaç=h_le_]aquestes estadÃstiques[/enllaç]. Les estadÃstiques són molt importants, ja que s'utilitzen per a calcular el cost de cada sol·licitud de traducció. Comprovi que no hi hagi comentaris o qualsevol doble traducció, d'altra manera les estadÃstiques es distorsionarien.
2. Comprovi l'estructura de les frases i la puntuació, que ha de ser idèntica a la del text original. Per exemple, si no hi ha punt final al text original, tampoc haurà d'haver-n'hi a la traducció. Si el text original està escrit completament en lletres majúscules (cosa que no es recomana!), la traducció s'haurà d'escriure de la mateixa manera.
3. Comprovi que el tÃtol està en l'idioma correcte. El tÃtol no ha de ser necessà riament una traducció del tÃtol original.
1 Al menú esquerre de la [enllaç=t_]pà gina de traducció[/enllaç], varis Ãtems sortiran en vermell quan vostè els hagi de revisar.
2 "Traduccions rebutjades per a ser confirmades". Aquest Ãtem correspon a traduccions realitzades, però que han estat rebutjades per l'usuari que les va sol·licitar. Això significa que a ell/ella li ha semblat molt dolenta. La traducció no ha estat rebutjada encara, vostè la pot rebutjar definitivament, o acceptar-la si fos bona. Això ha de ser revisat amb prioritat.
3 "Pà gines per a ser revisades". Aquestes són pà gines assenyalades amb una marca vermella pels usuaris. Quan hagi corregit la traducció, no oblidi retirar la "marca vermella" pressionant el botó [Esborrar].
4 "Traduccions en espera". Només disponible per als administradors. Vostè pot possar una traducció en espera quan cregui que no pot ser mostrada als traductors sense correcció. És una alternativa per a no haver de rebutjar la sol·licitud quan detectem un problema en ella.
Deures i responsabilitats dels experts de cucumis.org
1 L'expert té un estatus especial per a una llengua (o de vegades més d'una). L'expert només pot avaluar traduccions realitzades en aquest idioma.
2 L'expert visita cucumis.org regularment per revisar les traduccions fetes pels membres.
3 Quan la traducció és molt bona, és acceptada sense editar-la i amb una molt bona qualificació. Revisi més avall per trobar-ne detalls.
4. Quan la traducció és bona però conté algunes petites errades, és editada i després acceptada. Revisi més avall per trobar-ne detalls.
5. Quan la traducció no és prou bona, és rebutjada (revisi més avall per trobar detalls sobre la qualificació de traduccions rebutjades. És molt important deixar un missatge sota la traducció rebutjada (o directament a la safata d'entrada de l'usuari, si cal), per a que ell o ella no cometi la mateixa errada dues vegades.
6. Sé que la majoria de nosaltres estem traduint per plaer i no ens preocupem dels punts que puguem guanyar, però vostè ha de saber que quan n'accepta o en rebutja una guanya un petit percentatge del cost de la traducció.
7. Llegeixi i recordi [enllaç=h_t]aquestes pautes importants sobre com traduir a cucumis[/enllaç].
8. Existeix un (url=http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rss) canal RSS (/url) actualitzat a diari) que vostè pot utilitzar per a estar informat de qualsevol nova traducció que requereixi ser avaluada en les llengües en que és expert. Pot trobar aquest canal a la pà gina que conté les llistes de traducció per a ser avaluades (seleccioni el llenguatge de destà en que és expert), pressionant l'icone (img=http://cucumis.org/imatges/rss.png) RSS(/img). No dubti a fer servir aquest canal en el seu lector de feeds preferit
Netvibes, Google reader y [url=http://www.newsonfeeds.com/faq/aggregators]molt d'altres (/url)).
9. Prengui-ho amb calma
. Adopti un ritme de treball que pugui mantenir al llarg del temps. L'experiència ha demostrat que els nous experts que tradueixen i avaluen cents de traduccions durant els seus primers dies no duren gaire a cucumis. Per això, relaxi's...
10 En avaluar traduccions pari atenció en aquells traductors amb talent que podrien arribar a ser experts com vostè. Deixi-li un missatge a un administrador parlant-li'n. Treballar en equip sempre és més agradable i eficient. Encara més, aquests talents el podrien substituir quan li sigui més difÃcil emprar part del seu temps a Cucumis.
Qualificacions
1 La qualificació que vostè assigna a una traducció tan sols considera la capacitat del traductor per escriure en la llengua de destÃ.
2 Per exemple, si és una persona que parla com a natiu el català , pot ser que faci una traducció molt dolenta de l'anglès al català (amb un sentit equivocat) però escrita en un català perfecte. En aquest cas vostè pot rebutjar la traducció lliurant-li a l'hora una qualificació alta (o no qualificant-la. Vegi més avall).
3 Quan rebutgi una traducció pot triar la opció "No qualificar" que no incidirà en la nota global de l'usuari pel llenguatge de destÃ.
4 Per exemple, en el cas d'una traducció rebutjada per no estar en el llenguatge correcte, vostè ha de [/b]rebutjar-la sense qualificar-la[/b].
Quins petits detalls ha de comprovar abans d'acceptar/rebutjar una traducció?
1 Quan vostè accepta una traducció que no és de "només el significat", és automà ticament integrada en [enllaç=h_le_]aquestes estadÃstiques[/enllaç]. Les estadÃstiques són molt importants, ja que s'utilitzen per a calcular el cost de cada sol·licitud de traducció. Comprovi que no hi hagi comentaris o qualsevol doble traducció, d'altra manera les estadÃstiques es distorsionarien.
2. Comprovi l'estructura de les frases i la puntuació, que ha de ser idèntica a la del text original. Per exemple, si no hi ha punt final al text original, tampoc haurà d'haver-n'hi a la traducció. Si el text original està escrit completament en lletres majúscules (cosa que no es recomana!), la traducció s'haurà d'escriure de la mateixa manera.
3. Comprovi que el tÃtol està en l'idioma correcte. El tÃtol no ha de ser necessà riament una traducció del tÃtol original.
Traduccions per revisar
1 Al menú esquerre de la [enllaç=t_]pà gina de traducció[/enllaç], varis Ãtems sortiran en vermell quan vostè els hagi de revisar.
2 "Traduccions rebutjades per a ser confirmades". Aquest Ãtem correspon a traduccions realitzades, però que han estat rebutjades per l'usuari que les va sol·licitar. Això significa que a ell/ella li ha semblat molt dolenta. La traducció no ha estat rebutjada encara, vostè la pot rebutjar definitivament, o acceptar-la si fos bona. Això ha de ser revisat amb prioritat.
3 "Pà gines per a ser revisades". Aquestes són pà gines assenyalades amb una marca vermella pels usuaris. Quan hagi corregit la traducció, no oblidi retirar la "marca vermella" pressionant el botó [Esborrar].
4 "Traduccions en espera". Només disponible per als administradors. Vostè pot possar una traducció en espera quan cregui que no pot ser mostrada als traductors sense correcció. És una alternativa per a no haver de rebutjar la sol·licitud quan detectem un problema en ella.
Anglès
Experts and administrators of cucumis.org
1 The expert has special status for one language (and sometimes, more than one). The expert can only rate the translations done in this language.
2 The expert visits cucumis.org regularly to check the translations done by the members.
3 When the translation is very good, the translation is accepted without editing with a very good rating. See below for more details on ratings.
4 When the translation is good but containing some minor mistakes, it's edited first and then accepted. See below for more details on ratings.
5 When the translation is not good enough, it's rejected (see below for more details on rejected translation ratings). It's very important to post a message above the rejected translation (or directly into the user's inbox if necessary), in order he or she doesn't make the same mistake twice.
6 I know that most of us are translating out of love and don't care about the earned points but you should know that when accepting or rejecting translations you earn a small percent of the translation cost.
7 Read and remember these very important guidelines about how to translate on cucumis.
8 There is a RSS feed (updated everyday) that you can use to be informed of any new translations to be evaluated for the languages you are expert in. You can find this stream on the page showing the lists of translations to be evaluated (select the target languages you are expert in), by clicking on the icon
. Don't hesitate to use this stream in your favorite RSS reader (netvibes, google reader and many others).
9 Keep cool! Adopt a rythm that you can maintain for a long time. The experience has shown that new experts who translate and evaluate hundreds of translation during their first days, don't last very long on cucumis. So, keep cool...
10 While evaluating translations, pay attention to talented translators that could become an expert like you. Drop a message to an administrator about it. Working in a team is always more enjoyable and more efficient. Moreover, they can replace you when your life make it less easy to spend some time on cucumis.
11- Experts visit the site regularly not only to check the translations done into their languages of expertise and that are to be evaluated, but also to check the requests in their languages that may need some corrections before being translated (mainly misspellings) when submitted by a non-native speaker.
Any request which is out of frame according to these submission rules must be notified to the admins and put in standby.
1 The rating you give to a translation only concerns the translator's ability to write in the target language.
2 For example, if I'm a French native speaker, I can do a very bad translation from English to French (wrong meaning) but written in a perfect French. In this case you could reject the translation with a high rating (or no rating at all, see below).
3 When rejecting a translation, you can choose the option "No rating" which will have no effect on the global user rating for the target language.
4 For example, in the case of a translation rejected because it is not the right language, you should reject the translation without any rating.
1 When you accept a translation that is not "meaning only", it's automatically integrated in these statistics. They are very important as they are used to calculate the cost of each translation request. Check that there aren't any comments in the translation, or any double translation otherwise the statistics will be distorted.
2 Check the structure of the sentences and the punctuation, which must be correct in the target language even if the original is faulty.
Although not recommended, notice that some users introduce a request written completely in capital letters. Unless it is expressly required by the poster in the remark field, the translation must read correctly using caps only where the script in the target language requires.
3 Check that the title is in the right language. The title does not have to be a translation of the original title.
1 On the left menu of the translation home page, there are several items of the side menu that will appear in red when you have to check them.
2 "Rejected translations to be confirmed". This item corresponds to done translations but that has been rejected by the user who requested it. It means the translation seems bad to him/her. The translation is not yet rejected, you can definitely reject it or accept it if it's good. It's must be checked in priority.
3 "Pages to check". This page corresponds to pages that have been "red-flaged" by users. One you corrected the translation, don't forget to remove the "red-flag" by clicking on the [Delete] button.
4 "Translations in standby". Only available for administrators. You can put a requested translation in standby when you think it must not be shown to the translators without a correction. It's an alternative for not having to remove the request when we detect a problem in it.
1 First, look at the profile of the translator (age, native language, former translations, languages that can be read) and try to evaluate the care that has been put into the translation.
2 Most of the careless translations are done by new users who are testing the service.
3 Try to find help from other members and experts who understand the source language. By clicking on the "I can't understand the source text" button, the translation will be submitted to the votes of all members who can understand the both languages. After a few days, you just have to look at the results to make up your mind.
4 Finally, if you are not statisfied with the members votes, you can still ask the translator directly for a confirmation. If the member replies to you, it's already a very good sign.
5 Don't evaluate translations if you are still not sure after all of your research.
6 There is another option. When posting a message below a translation, you can choose to alert an expert about this message. The experts you notify, will receive a message in their inbox that invites them to check the translation.
1 "Meaning only" translations correspond to requests focused on the meaning and not on the form. You can accept the translation even if the form is approximative (only if the meaning is right of course). You must ask yourself this question : If I was the user who requested the translation, would I understand the meaning of the source text reading this translation? If the answer is "Yes", you can accept it. Of course you can use the poll to help you to evaluate these translations.
2 Sometimes, a request is not "meaning only", whereas it should be. Edit the translation to make it "meaning only". Source texts with an approximative form, or in an unknown language or mixed languages, or sms language, etc... should be changed into "meaning only".
1 Our private forum (in English assuming that all of us can write and understand English adequately) is only accessible by experts and administrators of cucumis.org. Use it to submit your questions and suggestions.
2 The administrators of cucumis.org are experts with additional rights. They are usually experienced users of cucumis.org and you can trust their answers.
1 Administrators' user names are written in red.
2 Administrators may have several rights and privileges. They can:
- level 1 : Build and manage (edit/delete messages) one forum for one language.
- level 2 : Accept/reject/edit/change language/delete target languages for all translations/all languages. They can do almost everything on cucumis, thus you can ask them to do the things you can't do. Administrators of level 2 and more are highlighted with this sign
. Even if they can technically evaluate all languages, they usually still only evaluate the languages they are expert in. Even if a positive poll is shown about the translation meaning, don't evaluate translations if you are not an expert of the target language.
- level 3 : Remove source languages (completely).
- level 4 : Ban members, edit member profiles, give privileges, etc...
Duties and responsibilities of the cucumis.org expert
1 The expert has special status for one language (and sometimes, more than one). The expert can only rate the translations done in this language.
2 The expert visits cucumis.org regularly to check the translations done by the members.
3 When the translation is very good, the translation is accepted without editing with a very good rating. See below for more details on ratings.
4 When the translation is good but containing some minor mistakes, it's edited first and then accepted. See below for more details on ratings.
5 When the translation is not good enough, it's rejected (see below for more details on rejected translation ratings). It's very important to post a message above the rejected translation (or directly into the user's inbox if necessary), in order he or she doesn't make the same mistake twice.
6 I know that most of us are translating out of love and don't care about the earned points but you should know that when accepting or rejecting translations you earn a small percent of the translation cost.
7 Read and remember these very important guidelines about how to translate on cucumis.
8 There is a RSS feed (updated everyday) that you can use to be informed of any new translations to be evaluated for the languages you are expert in. You can find this stream on the page showing the lists of translations to be evaluated (select the target languages you are expert in), by clicking on the icon
. Don't hesitate to use this stream in your favorite RSS reader (netvibes, google reader and many others).
9 Keep cool
! Adopt a rythm that you can maintain for a long time. The experience has shown that new experts who translate and evaluate hundreds of translation during their first days, don't last very long on cucumis. So, keep cool...
10 While evaluating translations, pay attention to talented translators that could become an expert like you. Drop a message to an administrator about it. Working in a team is always more enjoyable and more efficient. Moreover, they can replace you when your life make it less easy to spend some time on cucumis.
11- Experts visit the site regularly not only to check the translations done into their languages of expertise and that are to be evaluated, but also to check the requests in their languages that may need some corrections before being translated (mainly misspellings) when submitted by a non-native speaker.
Any request which is out of frame according to these submission rules must be notified to the admins and put in standby.
Ratings
1 The rating you give to a translation only concerns the translator's ability to write in the target language.
2 For example, if I'm a French native speaker, I can do a very bad translation from English to French (wrong meaning) but written in a perfect French. In this case you could reject the translation with a high rating (or no rating at all, see below).
3 When rejecting a translation, you can choose the option "No rating" which will have no effect on the global user rating for the target language.
4 For example, in the case of a translation rejected because it is not the right language, you should reject the translation without any rating.
What little things do I have to check before accepting/approving a translation?
1 When you accept a translation that is not "meaning only", it's automatically integrated in these statistics. They are very important as they are used to calculate the cost of each translation request. Check that there aren't any comments in the translation, or any double translation otherwise the statistics will be distorted.
2 Check the structure of the sentences and the punctuation, which must be correct in the target language even if the original is faulty.
Although not recommended, notice that some users introduce a request written completely in capital letters. Unless it is expressly required by the poster in the remark field, the translation must read correctly using caps only where the script in the target language requires.
3 Check that the title is in the right language. The title does not have to be a translation of the original title.
Translations to check
1 On the left menu of the translation home page, there are several items of the side menu that will appear in red when you have to check them.
2 "Rejected translations to be confirmed". This item corresponds to done translations but that has been rejected by the user who requested it. It means the translation seems bad to him/her. The translation is not yet rejected, you can definitely reject it or accept it if it's good. It's must be checked in priority.
3 "Pages to check". This page corresponds to pages that have been "red-flaged" by users. One you corrected the translation, don't forget to remove the "red-flag" by clicking on the [Delete] button.
4 "Translations in standby". Only available for administrators. You can put a requested translation in standby when you think it must not be shown to the translators without a correction. It's an alternative for not having to remove the request when we detect a problem in it.
What to do if I don't understand the source language?
1 First, look at the profile of the translator (age, native language, former translations, languages that can be read) and try to evaluate the care that has been put into the translation.
2 Most of the careless translations are done by new users who are testing the service.
3 Try to find help from other members and experts who understand the source language. By clicking on the "I can't understand the source text" button, the translation will be submitted to the votes of all members who can understand the both languages. After a few days, you just have to look at the results to make up your mind.
4 Finally, if you are not statisfied with the members votes, you can still ask the translator directly for a confirmation. If the member replies to you, it's already a very good sign.
5 Don't evaluate translations if you are still not sure after all of your research.
6 There is another option. When posting a message below a translation, you can choose to alert an expert about this message. The experts you notify, will receive a message in their inbox that invites them to check the translation.
Meaning only
1 "Meaning only" translations correspond to requests focused on the meaning and not on the form. You can accept the translation even if the form is approximative (only if the meaning is right of course). You must ask yourself this question : If I was the user who requested the translation, would I understand the meaning of the source text reading this translation? If the answer is "Yes", you can accept it. Of course you can use the poll to help you to evaluate these translations.
2 Sometimes, a request is not "meaning only", whereas it should be. Edit the translation to make it "meaning only". Source texts with an approximative form, or in an unknown language or mixed languages, or sms language, etc... should be changed into "meaning only".
Our private forum
1 Our private forum (in English assuming that all of us can write and understand English adequately) is only accessible by experts and administrators of cucumis.org. Use it to submit your questions and suggestions.
2 The administrators of cucumis.org are experts with additional rights. They are usually experienced users of cucumis.org and you can trust their answers.
Administrators
1 Administrators' user names are written in red.
2 Administrators may have several rights and privileges. They can:
- level 1 : Build and manage (edit/delete messages) one forum for one language.
- level 2 : Accept/reject/edit/change language/delete target languages for all translations/all languages. They can do almost everything on cucumis, thus you can ask them to do the things you can't do. Administrators of level 2 and more are highlighted with this sign
. Even if they can technically evaluate all languages, they usually still only evaluate the languages they are expert in. Even if a positive poll is shown about the translation meaning, don't evaluate translations if you are not an expert of the target language.
- level 3 : Remove source languages (completely).
- level 4 : Ban members, edit member profiles, give privileges, etc...
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